“Torch” — Part V, Page 39

Posted on February 22, 2010 at 5:00 am in FINDER as part of TorchTorch - Part Five, « TorchTorch - Part Five, . Follow responses to this post with the comments feed. You can leave a comment or trackback from your own site.

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  1. jessy says:

    Is jeager monster back? Or is she talking to ghosts?
    I like this lass, whatever her association to lilith. She seems to have taken the role of housekeeper her, very good place to be if you want to know everything and have a controlling stake.
    It wouldn’t surprise me to find that Coward had manipulated his people in to mugging Rachel in order to get a connection to her and therefore a connection to the city, it doesnt take a finder to realise that without the support of a highish ranking clan member you get nowhere(think the rescuers where the ascians had to leave when they fell out of favour with their Lord) so i would guess that he had the older “obsolete” ring as backup in case the one that was mugged was lost OR perhaps intended to give her that one all along as to give her the right one would have eventually aroused her suspicions.
    Once connected to the hierarchy the ascians are freer to moved about the city and take advantage of their surroundings, something they’ve been restricted from doing as before then they were seen as outsiders, now they are Rachels responsibility and can push the boundaries a bit more.
    Plus the men have known rachel carnally (in Orianna Mode she gave out “favours”) but the women are going to be just as strict about dresscodes because its a part of their heritage and what a person wears is often how you first judge them.

  2. jessy says:

    P.S. The women rule the house not the men in Ascian culture. The women run and control the house hold while the men come and go and show off. Rachel should have been asserting herself on the “Aunts” before now as this is her house, but shes too frazzled, godspoken, alien to know that, hence she gets no respect from the women or the men as head of the house.

  3. reptangle says:

    I have ants in my kitchen too.

  4. JollyGoth says:

    I really like her nightmare vision of the aunts. Hey do you guys know how to get some of the newer graphic novels for Finder? The last one I picked up was the Rescuers.

  5. Speed says:

    You can get ‘em all from me, but I regret to say the most recent was FIVE CRAZY WOMEN. The fate of VOICE and TORCH and those that follow them is being decided e’en now.

  6. Speed says:

    Yes, she should have asserted herself. It still might have gone horribly wrong in six or seven different ways, but if she’d stomped and snarled a little, the old ladies would at least have thought of her as an adult.

  7. Owlmirror says:

    There are ways of asserting yourself that don’t involve stomping and snarling.

    Kind of like Jaeger did at the beginning of part 3.

  8. Owlmirror says:

    In panel 3 — is she singing “whip poor will”, or making a whip-poor-will call (which sounds kind of tricky — it has rapid trills I’m not sure human lips can pull off), or is she doing a “wolf whistle”?

    I note that the whip-poor-will is a species of nightjar. I don’t think that’s a coïncidence.

    Scrolling further down the Wikipedia page for the bird, I note:

    One New England legend says the Whip-poor-will can sense a soul departing, and can capture it as it flees. [...]. This is likely related to an earlier Native American and general American folk belief that the singing of the birds is a death omen.


    And of course, she’s doing this while holding up that lacy, sexy bra. Sex and death — another subtle Lilith reference?

  9. Oneiros says:

    There are ways of asserting yourself that don’t involve stomping and snarling.

    Of course, there are, Owlmirror. I think Speed was speaking of that means of assertion as a minimal primitive effort. If Rachel had at LEAST done that, she’d have gotten some respect from the aunts.

    And yes, Jaeger has got a whole spectrum of expression and asserting himself. He can get quite physical, as with fights and throwing Jack upside down. And he can express himself with a great level of etiquette and delicate tact, as with the Nyima and with Coward. And the example you gave was an excellent one. Jaeger’s got many many years of being a Finder AND a Sin-eater to learn from and develop such a level of expression.

    But Rachel’s path as a Finder has just begun. It did begin many years ago just with her relationship with Jaeger and her putting the tattoo on with a marker. But getting into the clan took a new level for her, I guess like a birth, where what Finder influences were in her life before were like her gestation period. Her becoming a Finder was her learning to “jump” where before she did not, that time when someone took physical advantage of her, and she did not resist. She is still learning, and has much to learn, as we can see.

  10. Oneiros says:

    And maybe in the women’s kitchen, come to think of it, speaking of Jaeger’s conversation with “mama-da”, when he suggests to the auntie that Rachel needs a mom, Rachel will find one (she’ll probably have her cup overflowing there).

  11. Oneiros says:

    And, yes, who the heck IS Nightjar talking to that is high above her (talking from an alcove above? Or some secret passageway? Or is the voice some divine entity in her own life?)? It doesn’t sound like Jaeger to me.

  12. Liza says:

    Nightjar and Jack have a lot of mutual young Ascian friends, to any of whom she’d feel comfortable calling Jack “bitch,” so it could be any of them (or indeed Jaeger.) We may well find out next page.

    (I’m pretty sure it’s Jack she’s calling “bitch”, given their history, rather than Rachel.)

    That lettering is an astonishingly accurate rendering of a whippoorwill’s call.

    And I look forward hugely to being able to acquire a paper copy of “Voice” (be it book or download) so that it can sit beside all its siblings on my shelf.

  13. Drooling Fan Girl says:

    trufax about whippoorwills, the males call at night, I would assume to assert territory. I learned this while camping and trying to sleep with one in a tree above us. It got old really fast.

  14. Speed says:

    True dat. But I’ll swap ten of ‘em for one screech-owl. Those little boogers can blast the most seasoned camper out of their bedroll.

  15. PaulC says:

    Hi Speed,
    Do you have any Finder T-Shirts for sale, preferably showing people dancing?
    I dance alot and like to have lots of cool t-shirts to change into.

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