Comments on: “Torch” — Part III, page 43

By: reptangle

reptangle — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:31:07 +0000

Dang. On the one hand, I am glad we aren’t being taken out by lasers, but, on the other -so we aren’t even close?? :p

By: Oneiros

Oneiros — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:04:37 +0000

The Queen has spoken.

By: Speed

Speed — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:55:56 +0000

Don’t stress, guys. Watching you guys jump around on hot pavement is good fun. If there were any danger of your comments interrupting my work process, sure, I’d have to choose between destroying you all from my orbiting laser platform and shutting down comments, but you’re nowhere near that point.

By: Oneiros

Oneiros — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:29:39 +0000

I’ll take that into consideration. But if Carla provides notes on the back-details, in her graphic novels, might she not be ok with some of the details from emails? I certainly can’t speak for Carla, and I certainly don’t want to be in trouble with her. And I’m not blabbing. I’m holding back.

And would she dry up? I certainly don’t want that. But she has shown herself to be like a nearly limitless river. But I certainly don’t want to take the river for granted.

By: Des

Des — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:28:09 +0000

Chris, you’re not supposed to blab stuff she says in private emails! Even to us – She’ll dry up!

By: Oneiros

Oneiros — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:29:20 +0000

The intro is in the Sin-eater hardback, page 80:

“The Finders are now mainly forgotten. They were hunters, and trackers, and more. They lived secret lives. Most people didn’t know who had or hadn’t been accepted into their secret society. Their skills were honed to artistry. To catch the slightest glimpse of one against his intent was rare indeed, and brought great censure from his brethren. Some lived as ordinary people; others undertook great missions, travelling vast distances alone and unknown. IT WAS THE WAY OF THE FINDER TO HELP HIS PEOPLE BY STANDING APART FROM THEM, SEEING THEM AS ONLY AN OUTSIDER CAN. But for those who needed to ask for help directly, there WERE ways to speak to the Finders. Those customs still linger, although the reasons are also mainly forgotten. And customs change. For a while, Finders even wore the signal pattern openly, secure in the knowledge that only other Finders knew what it meant.”

I don’t know what formal or distinct rite of passage there is for becoming a Finder. That’s never been shown, if it exists.

What makes a Finder proper? A ritual? Recognition by another Finder? One’s own belief that one IS a Finder? Dunno.

But when “Voice” was coming out online, Carla did confirm to me in email that in trying to find a Finder (Jaeger) to find her ring, Rachel was at least on her way to becoming a Finder.

- Chris

By: Twitch

Twitch — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:45:52 +0000

I figure that Coward is setting Jack up, grooming him the way he groomed Rachel during Voice.

Jack’s already got the trailbreaker bug, and he’s on his way to being a full-blown pariah

Contradictions make the best stories.

Hell, if anything, Jack’s being set up to take Coward’s place – for all Jaeger’s talents, he only has two hands and can only be in one place at a time.

Jack’s already ahead of him with his transponders and scouting team.

Cracking Coward’s scheme may just be a tutorial to prepare him for his own scheming.

By: des pickard

des pickard — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:44:37 +0000

Rache said once that putting on the tattoo calmed her down … we know she wants to be badass like Jaeger … and she sure did fine work finding a home for Coward’s clan – but not a Finder in the secret-society sense of Jaeger and Coward. Scared for her with the Orianna and the drinking, and scared for everybody with Jack like that … he’s got the makings of a Lynne-level Techno-badass about him, and disobeying wise Coward like that he could bring his people some real trouble. Unless Coward wants him to rebel, in which case just worried for him…

By: Lethe

Lethe — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:45:18 +0000

I don’t think Jack OR Rachel are Finders proper. Rachel… well, she got lucky. But she tries too hard to do things that should almost literally fall in her lap.

Jaeger on the other hand, now there’s a Finder – he doesn’t go searching specifically but once he sees something, he knows that it’ll become important. I suspect that Rachel put the tattoo on her more to *attract* Finders, than *appear* to be one.

Jack is an explorer, in more ways than just physically.

By: reptangle

reptangle — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:00:25 +0000

There was something about Finders “helping by standing apart” which I took to mean they were like Jaeger; outsiders and not full members of any clan. Ironically, my “Finder” books are lost somewhere, so I can’t see exactly how it was described. .